Today’s guest is Steve Magness. Steve is a world-renowned expert on health and human performance. He is the co-author of the best-selling Peak Performance and The Passion Paradox, and the author of The Science of Running. He’s the co-host of two podcasts, The Growth Equation Podcast and On Coaching with Magness and Marcus. Steve has served as a consultant and speaker for NASA, the Houston Rockets, Murphy Oil, the Brooklyn Nets, the Cleveland Guardians, the Seattle Sounders, the New Orleans Pelicans, and more. The occasion for today’s chat is his latest book, Do Hard Things: Why We Get Resilience Wrong and The Surprising Science of Real Toughness

We talk about how being in the moment matters when aiming for success, confidence requires work and consistency, why perfectionism isn’t sustainable, how to use failure as motivation to keep going, and so much more! 

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What to Listen For:

  • 00:00 Intro
  • 02:04 We focus so much on what’s going on externally
  • 04:00 Using doubt in a productive way
  • 06:59 Pressure and discomfort narrow us
  • 11:21 Psychological debriefing with friends
  • 17:14 Accept what you’re capable of in the moment
  • 20:18 Confidence demands evidence
  • 22:51 The real boost to your self esteem
  • 26:26 High level of demandingness of parenting doesn’t work
  • 31:26 Doing hard things and embracing difficult things
  • 35:35 How do you change your relationship with discomfort?
  • 39:54 Our doubts are normal
  • 43:37 Perfectionism is not sustainable
  • 46:07 If you succeed all the time, motivation plummets

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